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File Year
24
File Sequence Number
3
Application Name
Stormwater Code Amendments
Document Type
Public Testimony
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1/28/2025
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1 <br />GEPPER Jeffrey A <br />From:Dane Butler <dane@butlerhomes.net> <br />Sent:Tuesday, January 28, 2025 4:59 AM <br />To:SINGER Doug K; WALCH Therese; RODRIGUES Matt J; HOEY Rich; GEPPER Jeffrey A <br />Cc:Admin <br />Subject:City Council work session. <br />[EXTERNAL ❚❛❜] <br />Hey Group. <br />I stayed on and watched last night the work session and Doug did a great job. We sƟll feel like this is the department in <br />which this process is controlled thru. I thought I would aƩach all parƟes aŌer our last few discussions. I sent off a very <br />short email to council and Mayor before the work session to explain that we sƟll have concerns of the final landing spot <br />of this ordinance. I want to clarify a few things that sƟll don’t seem to be being vocalized of our concerns correctly last <br />night. <br />During all our meeƟngs with staff, WOBA was okay with the expiring of our exisƟng 2014 date which protected some <br />properƟes that were developed prior to 2014 which did not specifically address stormwater in their approvals. We do <br />sƟll believe that those parcels have some sort of legal standing just as the City believed they did when we used those <br />protecƟons in the past. But WOBA believed that was more of a gray area for our legal stance thus allowing historical lots <br />in which stormwater was not addressed in their approvals to expire. <br />What I think WOBA’s main focus was to make sure that the City’s approvals can sƟll be relied upon. What our legal <br />opinion has always and sƟll is that when the City specifically addresses stormwater in a PUD, Subdivision, or plat then <br />those are relied upon for the development of the infrastructure and when the city feels like they can change their <br />approvals then those properƟes are damaged. I felt like Gillespie BuƩe was a great example of where the neighbors and <br />the City required the developer (The developer proposed green infrastructure and was denied) to manage their <br />stormwater in a certain manner. The developer then completed the infrastructure based on the direcƟon not of <br />themselves but the direcƟon of the City. Those approvals absolutely have legal standing. We vocalized this to staff, city <br />aƩorney and the planning commission that these type of approvals don’t expire aŌer 10 years. I just don’t see the <br />possibility of Gillespie BuƩe in which the City can require a developer to not use green infrastructure and then 10 years <br />later reverse and require the developer to install green infrastructure when building permits are received. Those <br />documents and approvals are the legal binding contracts between the City and neighborhood. <br />Crescent Village is a small example of a PUD which was created with stormwater in mind. The City and the developer <br />created a great neighborhood where green infrastructure which was incorporated on the larger more expansive areas <br />(commercial, roads and parking). It was decided and approved by the city that the dense residenƟal lots didn’t require <br />the new evolving stormwater standards. Those approvals were relied upon when the developer installed and completed <br />the required infrastructure. The example of Lord Byron even shows that a permit was pulled installed and inspected by <br />the city in which a future project could be connected to and not required to meet todays stormwater standards because <br />the infrastructure was completed 8‐10 years ago and met the requirements of the City. <br />There are other PUD’s out there that will be damaged by relying on the City’s approvals. I am actually meeƟng a group <br />this week to look at a larger stalled project in the South Eugene/Churchill area. I haven’t yet done a full review of that <br />subdivisions approval documents but I would be highly surprised based on the age of these approvals that this ordinance <br />update won’t negaƟvely damage this property too. I’ll let you know when I get thru those documents. <br />CA 24-3 Testimony Batch 3
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