Faris- could we request it? <br />Eric - I’m not familiar with anything in our code that could require that. <br />Massoud - I’ve worked in Washington County and other places where, when there is a major <br />development coming and Public Works anticipates a lot of heavy truck traffic going back and forth <br />for a year or so, they do an assessment of the road condition. There are multiple categories they <br />can look at, and then when the work is done, they can look and say that the road condition went <br />from this level to this level. <br />(28:44) Nick - Yes, the code actually does have provisions that require that there not be <br />significant negative impacts offsite. Could be insub (12), I think, (We think he means sub 11) so <br />it’s not a public works thing. This would fall under that (i.e., EC 9.8320 (11)) and the Hearings <br />Official does have a legal basis to do what Massoud has suggested. Whether or not he’ll choose to <br />do it is a different matter. <br />Eric – As a side note, I don’t think that we’re anticipating a lot of extremely heavy trucks for this <br />project compared to other construction sites. The access to the site doesn’t dictate that. Usually <br />you have a truck and pumper or a truck and transfer to bring up your asphalt and everything, <br />which are extremely heavy and also require a lot of street to maneuver through. I imagine that if <br />this project gets constructed, it’s not going to be with the biggest construction vehicles. <br />Massoud - I’m talking about a typical concrete truck going back and forth. <br />Eric - Yes, concrete trucks, but also asphalt trucks that weigh many tons. <br />(29:51) Nick - I think it’s a valid concern and it’s something that you should just throw out there. <br />It’s something that could be a condition (of approval). We did that where I used to work in <br />Arizona. I don’t know if we can do that here, but I’ll bring it up and I’ll discuss doing an <br />assessment of the roads leading up to it (the PUD). <br />Paul - Look at sub (12). <br />Nick - Prior to having them do the assessment… <br />Faris - Having who do the assessment? The developer? <br />Nick - Yeah. Or Public Works. We’ll have to talk internally as to whether or not that’s something <br />that could be done, but you could bring it up as a condition (of approval). Put it in there. I don’t <br />see why not, I think there’s something valid behind it. <br />Nate - It’s a brand new road. If you want to know what the condition is right now, anybody can tell <br />you, it’s been repaved within 11 months. <br />Nick - If it’s found that any of their activity caused some kind of degradation, then they’re <br />responsible to bring it back to prior condition. Ask for that condition. We’ll deal with it from the <br />planning side and it’ll be up to the Hearing Official. <br />Nick - I think what I’m hearing is that they (Public Works) don’t normally do that. <br />Faris - Is that the only way that you think we’ll be able to prove use? We need to know a way to <br />prove degradation of a road and so a condition survey is one way. Do you have any other way? <br />Eric - No, because degradation of a road happens all of the time, so it is hard to prove. Every <br />vehicle that drives on a road degrades it. <br />CW - Take the difference between the road 1 year ago and now. <br />Faris - It sounds a little bit argumentative to suggest that a road is always degrading as opposed to <br />degrading from a lot of heavy construction. <br />Paul - I can tell you where it is in the code. <br />(32:59) Massoud - With regards to the numbers, a pavement or civil engineer can come up with a <br />level of impact. You know how many trips up there you have now, and then based on the weight of <br />the trucks and typical construction traffic that may be going on for so long a period of time. That’s <br />why they do a survey before and after and that gives them a pretty good idea of conditions. If your <br />road has a 20-year life and it lasts 18 years, you know that it’s time for resurfacing. If it’s a brand <br />new road, newly paved and you have to come back and repave in 2 to 5 years, then you know that <br />there was an impact due to construction traffic. It’s fair (to ask) that the developer know this. <br />(33:51) Nick - It’s knowable. <br /> <br />